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又到了每周一更的时间!对于本章,我其实心里比翻译CM那章还没底。这么说吧,书里提到的这些步骤,我这个模型小白有一半以上都没有尝试过。以前那么多期我还可以凭着自己的感觉打两下嘴炮。这一期翻的真的是如履薄冰!只能慢慢的顺藤摸瓜,总算是啃完了。如果有翻译的不理想的地方,大家多多给予宝贵意见!  
抛开标题,这一章我觉得更多的还是在讲锈,更多的锈,更精细的锈! 对锈感兴趣的朋友,绝对不可错过! 这期五个楼层

附上前几期传送门:
第一期:色彩区分 http://www.moxdao.com/thread-56135-1-1.html
第二期:底色和迷彩喷涂  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-56231-1-1.html
第三期:色调调节  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-56473-1-1.html
第四期:滤镜: http://www.moxdao.com/thread-57160-1-1.html
第五期: 图案和标识徽章  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-57797-1-1.html
第六期:发胶掉漆制作冬季涂装  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-57939-1-1.html
第八期:褪色和添加阴影 http://www.moxdao.com/thread-58663-1-1.html
第九期: 常规掉漆  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-58789-1-1.html
第十期: 发胶掉漆  http://www.moxdao.com/thread-58971-1-1.html
第十一期: 外部装备涂装 http://www.moxdao.com/thread-59092-1-1.html

声明:所有图书和图片的版权均归原作者和原出版社所有,任何人不得用于商业用途。翻译稿暂时只在模型岛放出,欢迎转载,但请提前联系本人。非常感谢!


12 PAINTING MILD STEELSURFACES AND RUST 钢质表面和锈的涂装



首先要说的是,锈蚀表面制作的成功与否完全取决于你的想象力!
来看一个很好的例子,在这辆17cm自走炮上可以看到不同种类的金属表面,不同的涂装和旧化有助于在不同部件之间创造对比。

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我对金属表面的兴趣产生于我20多岁做焊工的时期。我非常喜欢和钢铁打交道,直到我决定回去完成我的大学学业。在这一章节,我们将看到一些不同的钢质表面部件的涂装案例。你会发现大部分的技法我们已经在前面都解释和演示过了,这里我不会过多的赘述。

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我们会展示在轻质的金属材质表面上四种不同涂装方式。


Rusty surface are great because yourimagination is the limit
A good example is this Geschuzwagen TigerFur 17cm. Numerous types of different metal surfaces can be seen on this model.These different exteriors along with the fabricators markings and weatheringreally help to break the model apart
giving each detail its own finish.
My interest for metal finishes comes frommy early 20s when I was a welder. I really enjoyed working with steel until Idecided to go back to finish my bachelors. In this part we are going to look atsome examples for painting different mild steel finishes. You will find thatmost of the painting techniques used have been explained already. Therefore Iwill be less descriptive then I have been in the past chapters.
We will start with four examples forpainting different types of surfaces on light guage metals.




Painting light guage mild steeland screens 软刚和铁丝网涂装



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我们现在来看四个轻质软钢的涂装例子。
第一个例子主要用海绵掉漆法来获得生锈表面。第二个例子中会涂装一个铁丝网组件,来呈现如何用锈色调和其他颜色的组合为各个部件创造对比。第三个例子会涂装一个剥落状的烧灼效果的金属表面。最后,第四个例子,用发胶掉漆法展现一个从仓库里取出的新零件。

We are now going to look at four examples ofpainting light gauge mild steel.
The first example will require the use of asponge as a primary technique to get a rusty finish. In the second example Iwill paint a screen assembly demonstrating how to use rust tones and othercolors to make contrast between parts. For the third example we will paint aburnt piece of metal containing flaked paint. In the fourth example thehairspray method will be employed to get a result representing a new piece ofsteel just taken from storage.





PAINTING SHEET METAL WITH ASPONGE 海绵掉漆涂装薄板

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下面我们就一步一步的介绍制作一片E-50图纸车上锈迹斑斑的金属侧裙板的方法。
The following set of step by step photos displaythe methods I used to paint an old rusty piece of sheet metal being used as a make-shiftSchurzen on a German E-50 ‘Paper Panzer’


这次我基本都用水漆来上底色,然后加入油画颜料,珐琅漆和天然土来略微混合颜色。
Most of the tones will be painted usinglayers of acrylic paints applied with a sponge. After I will slightly blend thecolors while adding more tones using oils, enamels and pigments.




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用调制好的水漆在部件上喷涂浅锈色底色。接着,在调色板中调制一些锈色和灰色。
After priming the part I airbrushed it witha bright rust basecoat mixed from acrylics. Next I mixed a few rust tones andsome grey colors into the pools of a palette again using acrylics.



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在这块钢板的两个加强筋上涂上一层灰色底色,接下来,我将一些浅锈色阴影涂在角落上。
A base coat of grey was brushed over thetwo stiffeners. Next I brushed some of the light rust shade onto the corners ofthe angles.




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用海绵在锈橙色底色上随机戳一些深棕色。由于海绵的局限性,所以还需要用笔刷在角落处加强这个深棕色调。采用同样的手法再混合一点深锈色在刚才操作的位置。
Using a sponge I added random darker browntones over the orange rust. A paint brush was needed to apply more of the browninto the corners around the stiffeners where the sponge could not reach. Moredarker jumbled rust tones were applied using the same method.




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再用笔刷随机的涂一点灰色呈现锈蚀后露出出厂底色的效果。然后再用海绵戳一点深锈色,增强真实性。以上几步都是用水漆操作的,这几层结束后我们可以先把水漆放到一边。
I applied some random grey areas by brushrepresenting left over bits of mill scale then added more bits or darker rust.These steps ended the layers of acrylics.




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接着我们就要用到油画颜料,珐琅漆以及天然土添加一些额外的色调了。珐琅漆可以加速油画颜料干燥的时间,天然土则用来增加额外的颜色和纹理。图中可以看到,我混合了另外一种锈橙色调,然后以点状涂抹在刚才做好的模型上,用珐琅漆溶剂晕开。做完后放置一天左右等干。
Now it was time to add some additionaltones while blending the acrylic layers using oils, enamel paints and pigments.The enamels were used to speed up the drying time of the oils. The pigmentsadded extra colour and texture. Another orange rust tone was mixed, applied indots, and then blended with the aid of enamel thinner. After I put the partdown for about a day to let the oils set before moving on.




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再调一种暗一点的锈色,同前面的方法一样,点状随机的涂上。在加强筋上也涂上一点这个深锈色
Another darker rust shade was mixed,randomly applied in dots and blended like before. I applied some more rusttones over the angled stiffeners as well.




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再通过斑点法添加非常细小的浅色和深色锈斑,记得要把灰色区域的斑点用清理掉。然后再这个“混乱”的锈色面板上来条大大的直条纹。(译者注:这恐怕就是所谓的“虚实结合”的技法了,这个条纹一下就成为了这个面板的焦点,带动着整个模型都立体和真实起来。会不会显得突兀?接着往下看吧)然后再把零件放置几天等干。
More fine specs of the light and dark rusttones were applied by speckling. Some of the fine specs needed to be blendedand cleaned from the areas of grey mill scale. I felt that a large rust streakwould add a nice straight line to all of the jumbled tones. After that, I againput the part aside for a few days.




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接着,在这片裙甲上喷几层哑光清漆。然后在涂上一层白色,模拟油漆溢出的状态,来抵消另一边橙色条纹带来的高对比效果。
Next a few coats of matt varnish were addedto the schürzen. A splash of spilt white paint was also applied to offset theorange streak of rust on the opposite side.




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用手钻在面板上钉几个孔或者凹痕,模拟弹痕。用细的毛笔或笔刷描一下每个弹坑,接着用铅笔尖在弹坑处压一下或者转一下。接着用artists sharpener(译者注:我也不知道这是个什么东西,看着像铅笔一样)在加强筋和灰色区域涂上石墨。用手指在侧边蹭抹一点石墨模拟金属效果。
I painted all of the small arms impactsusing a fine brush then pressed a pencil into each of the small indents.Graphite was also rubbed over the angles and grey areas of mill scale using anartists sharpener. More shiny graphite was applied around the sides using myfinger.




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我在裙板的加强筋的焊缝处笔涂一些小锈渍。这是呈现拟真的软钢锈渍的一种非常简单有效的方法。你可以凭借你的想象,使用相同的材料和方法在金属表面呈现各种各样的锈渍。
I finished the schürzen by painting smallrusty slag covered intermittent fillet welds around the angles. This is an easyeffective way for painting authentic rusty mild steel. You can use these samemediums and techniques to obtain an almost unlimited array of rusty metalsurfaces on your model. Your imagination is the limit.




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这种钢管组件是另外一个例子。我用海绵和笔刷的方式,运用丙烯漆涂了一遍主色调(译者注:可以理解为底色,但我觉得亚当这里是指锈蚀之后露出的那种底色。)然后用珐琅漆,油画颜料,天然土随机的渍洗一遍,添加更多的色调,并把所有的颜色混合在一起。
This steel pipe assembly is anotherexample. I added all of the general tones using acrylics applied with both asponge and paint brush. After random washes of enamels, oils and pigments wherebrushed on to add more tones while also blending everything together.  



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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-6 10:22:59 | 显示全部楼层

PAINTING METAL SCREENS 铁丝网涂装

本帖最后由 facewest 于 2018-11-6 10:31 编辑

PAINTING METAL SCREENS 铁丝网涂装


在下面这个例子中,我会对一个反火箭筒铁丝网组件进行涂装,演示如何使用锈色和其他颜色来创建部件之间的对比。
In this quick example I will paint an anti-panzerfaustscreen assembly demonstrating how to use rust tones and other colors to create contrastbetween parts.



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用水漆调出深锈色调作为底色喷涂。然后用油画颜料,珐琅漆,天然土混合一个中锈色重涂在铁丝网上,然后用斑点法增加锈斑
After airbrushing a coat of primer a darkrust tone mixed from acrylics was applied. I mixed a medium rust tone usingoils, enamels and pigments and applied a heavy coat over the entire screenassembly then added more rust tones using speckling.



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让刚才的中锈色干燥一段一会儿,我在钢制框架上随机的涂上灰色。
After letting the medium rust tones dry fora while I painted grey areas of mill scale randomly over each of the differentpieces of the frame.



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在这个铁丝网中间的交叉支撑上涂一点浅锈色珐琅漆,创建一下对比度。然后用海绵在长方形铁丝网的长边上点一些浅黄色掉漆,用来突出这条长边的视觉效果。接下来,利用遮盖在铁丝网中间偏左部分用海绵点出一条白色的条纹出来。(译者注:图片中没有把详细步骤展示出来,大家参考一下后面的图片就可以明白效果了。
I brushed light enamel rust tones at thedifferent intersections of the assembly creating contrast between the parts.Chipped light yellow areas of acrylic paint were added to some if the lengthsusing a sponge in order to break these pieces up from the rest of thestructure.  The white stripe was made usinga sponge after masking the center area with tape.  




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利用铅笔或者手指随机的抹一些石墨增加磨损区域的金属光泽。
Graphite was added using both a pencil andmy finger to obtain random realistic shiny worn areas.


上面就是涂装软钢和锈色的另外一种方法。接下来,我们再看一下如何绘制金属部分的烧灼效果。
This is another method for painting mild steeland rust. Let’s view another example this time on how to paint a burnt metalfinish.

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PAINTING BURNT SHEET METAL 绘制金属灼烧

本帖最后由 facewest 于 2018-11-6 10:53 编辑

PAINTING BURNT SHEET METAL 绘制金属灼烧


刚经历灼烧的金属面板上面有着非常显著的橙锈色外观。
Freshly burnt sheet metal is ratherdistinctive having a bright orange rusty appearance.



这里我会涂装一个E-50的侧裙板,让它看起来好像是从战场上烧毁的废墟中拉出来的一样。
在这个例子中,我还是会用分层的方法来制作出一个局部灼烧掉起皮的样子。用橙锈色和类似烧焦的颜色增加两种纹理来区别裙甲其他软钢部分。并且给予这辆图纸车与众不同的外观效果。在这个例子的操作中我们会借助发胶技术。
I will continue with painting another oneof the E-50 field applied schürzen this time to look as though it was takenfrom some burnt wreckage found in the field. In this example I am also going toapply a partial layer of peeled burnt paint. The bright orange rust along withthe charred paint added two more textures to work in conjunction with the othermild steel patterns on the different schürzens helping to give a rather exoticlook to this paper panzer. This series of steps will involve the hairspraytechnique discussed earlier.



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Metal leaf是一种非常薄金属箔片。大部分艺术品商店都有很多种品牌的金属箔片出售。(译者注:这是国外的情况,国内就直接买便宜的薄的铝箔吧)。在这个例子中我们用水稀释木胶(译者注:我是小白,我不知道国内这货叫啥!)然后把箔片粘到裙甲上。
Metal leaf is a very thin delicate foil.There are different brands on the market and you can find it in most artstores. Wood glue diluted with water will be used in this example to fix theleaf onto the schürzen.




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给裙板涂过底漆之后(译者注:如果是金属蚀刻片要涂金属底漆),我大致标出准备做灼烧的区域。在要做灼烧的区域我用稀释过的胶水薄薄的刷一层,然后朝下放在一片铜箔上,静置大约6个小时。
After priming my copper schürzen I roughlymarked the area where the burnt paint would be. I brushed a thin layer of thediluted glue over the marked area then placed the schürzen face down onto apiece of the copper leaf. I let the parts sit for about six hours.




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接下来用一把锋利的小道仔细的沿裙板边缘连同铜箔一起裁剪下来(译者注:这个时候铜箔营合裙板粘牢了)。然后继续一点点的把裙板上的铜箔剥离,直到对营造出来的粗糙锈蚀效果感到满意就好了。(译者注:这种方法我也是第一次看到,所以不知道理解的对不对,期待了解这个技法的前辈给予指导。
I carefully cut the excess leaf away alongwith the unglued sections over the plate using a new sharp knife. I continuedremoving and peeling back the parts of remaining leaf until I obtained a roughtexture that I was happy with.




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用干燥的笔刷把一些残留的碎铜箔刷掉。有些不平的地方用稀释过的牙膏补土一点点的填平,干燥后,轻轻的打磨平整。
A dry brush was used to remove any left overflakes. Diluted putty was used to blend the border between the copper foil and paint.After the putty had time to dry it was gently sanded.  




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接下来就要在这块裙板上喷涂底色了。底色可以由深锈色和浅锈色组成。这两种锈色都是用田宫的XF-3消光黄色,XF-9 舰底红,XF-63德国灰,这三种颜色(或同颜色的丙烯水漆)调配出来的。(译者注:对调色没有信心的朋友可以直接买现成的颜色即可)。接下来用斑点法,在灼烧区域添加更多的浅锈色。接着同样用斑点法在整个区域添加深锈色。最后用海绵添加一些随机的灰色区域,模拟裸露出的钢铁色
The base coat consisted of light and darkrust tones both mixed from the same three Tamiya paints. Starting with theburnt area I applied more light tones of rust using the speckling technique.Next I added more dark tones of rust again using speckling. Areas of grey millscale were also added using a sponge.




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接着我在之前做好的这块裙板上喷一层发胶,作为灼烧效果下面的底色。下一步用深灰和蓝色对灼烧区域进行喷涂。干燥一会儿之后,用蘸水的刷子湿润漆面,使用发胶掉漆相同的手法把这个深灰和蓝色涂层渐渐剥落,模拟灼烧后的效果。做好之后等漆面上的水干透了,我会上几层哑光清漆巩固漆面和保护。
I applied a coat of hairspray over the layers ofacrylics. Next the dark grey and blue areas were airbrushed. The outer layer ofhairspray and Tamiya paints were chipped using a small soft brush dampened withwater. Once the water dried I sealed the paint with a few coats of mattvarnish.

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接着我用笔刷在这块裙板薄片上颜色过渡的地方用黑色上一些线条。然后再在蓝色区域用浅蓝色呈现掉漆,弹痕孔也用深灰色表现一下。
I needed to paint some of the flakes blackusing a brush. I decided to apply some light blue chips to the blue paint. Theimpacts were also painted with a dark grey colour.  


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用浅锈色进行局部渍洗(沉积效果)完成掉漆效果。然后用铅笔在弹痕边缘和裙边边缘描一下。
Light amounts of rust washes were added tofinish off the chipping effects. I traced the perimeter and impacts using apencil to finish the part.   



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这片裙板上的灼烧层和起泡的效果给这款E-50增添了更多的色彩、质感,以及生命力。想这样去旧化一个部件总是比较困难的,因为每一层都有必须要呈现出来的东西,所以完全不能被后面的操作覆盖。接下来,我们看一个使用发胶技术快速涂装软钢的例子
The bright burnt area of the steel and blisteredflaked paint add more colour, texture and life to the completed E-50.Weathering parts like this is always difficult because you do not want to coverany of the layers needed to create the effects. Next we will look at a quickerexample of painting a new piece of mild steel using the hairspray method.






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PAINTING SHEET METAL, HAIRSPRAY TECHNIQUE 发胶掉漆技术涂装薄板

本帖最后由 facewest 于 2018-11-6 10:57 编辑

PAINTING SHEET METAL,HAIRSPRAY TECHNIQUE 发胶掉漆技术涂装薄板



除了海绵技法,发胶掉漆技法也是我常用来给金属表面进行涂装的一种简单有效的方法。
Like a sponge, using hairspray is alsoanother fairly easy method that I use for painting mild steel surfaces.


这个例子中,我们用发胶掉漆技术涂装这辆谢尔曼车体后部的金属板。具体操作中的大部分技巧,本书前面都已经提到,所以在这里我可能会快速带过。
For this example we are going to use thehairspray technique to paint the sheet metal assembly on the rear of thisSherman hull. Most of these techniques used will be a quick review of the onescovered earlier in this book.


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上完水补土后,我用田宫水漆 德国灰色喷涂了一层底色。接下来,再喷几层发胶。等发胶干了之后,用田宫水漆调制了一个比底色浅的灰色喷涂到面板上。然后用一支改良过的硬毛笔蘸水把面板打湿,按照一定路径(比如垂直)用擦洗的动作做类似掉漆效果。
After airbrushing a coat of primer Iapplied a basecoat of Tamiya German grey acrylic. Next a few good coats of hairspraywere added. I airbrushed another light grey tone mixed from Tamiya paints.Using a scrubbing motion I removed some of the outer colour with a modifiedstiff-bristled brush dampened with water as shown.



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完成上面一步后,我喷涂了几层哑光清漆密封保护这个做好的浅灰色调。等待几个小时候,再喷上几层发胶,依旧等发胶干了之后,用田宫水漆混合一个锈色调出来,加水稀释后在这个面板上随机喷涂,然后和上面一样,用硬毛笔蘸水按和上一步相同的路径做掉漆效果。具体呈现可以参考图片。
At this point I airbrushed a few coats ofmatt varnish over the assembly sealing the light grey tone. After waiting for afew hours another few coats of hairspray were added. I mixed a rust colourusing Tamiya paints, thinned the tone using water and then airbrushed itrandomly over the part. Once more I removed some of the outer layer using astiff-bristled modified brush as shown.




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接下来我用Humbrol漆的铝色勾勒出框架的边缘。用手指蘸石墨涂抹降低铝色比较明亮的色调,呈现出钢铁磨损的外观来。
I outlined the edges of the frame usingHumbrol aluminum. Graphite applied with my finger was used to tone down thealuminum coloured edges resulting in a look of worn steel.  


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这是本章中关于涂装软钢面板的最后一个例子。如您所见,其实有很多种方法来做类似的涂装。 了解他们有助于您通过添加颜色,纹理,对比度等方法获得不同的效果。接下来,我来展示一些涂装厚钢板的方法。
This is the last example in this section aboutpainting sheet metal. As you can see there are numerous ways to perform thesetypes of finishes. Understanding all of them will help you to obtain manyresults adding lots of colors, textures and contrast amongst the differentparts of a replica. Next I will demonstrate some methods for painting a thickpiece of plate steel.

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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-6 10:30:31 | 显示全部楼层

PAINTING STEEL PLATE 涂装厚钢板

本帖最后由 facewest 于 2018-11-6 11:04 编辑

PAINTING STEEL PLATE 涂装厚钢板



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这个小节,我将涂装一辆JS-3车侧的后钢板,可以看到他上面的金属薄板已经在战斗中完全被扯掉了。
这里所用的操作技法你们在前面都已经看过了。所以不做过多解释。对实车做过一定研究后会发现厚钢板与金属薄板的表面往往有着不同的纹理。

In this part I am going to paint a thicksteel plate located on the side of a JS-3 tank where the sheet metal side has beenripped away.
All of the methods that I will use tofinish this plate have been discussed previously. When studying actual examplesyou will observe that plate steel often has a bit of a different texture thenthose seen on pieces of sheet metal.



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在这个示例中,先用棕色水漆给这个车侧钢板上底色。然后用遮盖带遮住需要保护的地方。接下来喷两到三层发胶。再在发胶上喷涂浅灰色水漆,用刷子蘸水随机刷出掉漆效果。
For this example a brown tone mixed from acrylic paints was used forthe base coat. Masking tape protected the rest of the dark green coat fromoverspray. Two to three coats of hairspray were applied next. A light grey millscale tone mixed from acrylic paints was applied over the hairspray andrandomly chipped using a fine brush dampened with tap water.  




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用锈色进行随机的渍洗,然后在面板外部边缘小心的喷涂锈橙色。
Some random rust washes were applied then alight coat of orange rust was carefully airbrushed to the outer edge of theplate.




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混合一个锈棕色掉用斑点法弹到这个钢板上,巧妙的混合不同的涂层。
A brown rust tone was mixed and speckledonto the part to subtly blend all of the different layers.



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用水稀释的丙烯涂料做出垂直的锈纹,然后用细笔刷把他们垂直的涂开。制造垂纹效果。用同样的方法再添加一些绿色的垂纹完成这个部件的制作。
Streaks of rust mixed from acrylic paintsthinned with tap water were applied using a fine brush. An additional effect ofgreen paint runs was also applied in the same manner to finish the part.



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虽然用于涂装这个JS-3侧板的的每种颜色和技法都和之前看到的类似,但较厚的钢板通常含有不同的纹理。这辆1945年布拉格起义中的追猎者模型上,可以看到用多种方法创建的不同的表面效果。本章介绍的这些涂装非常有趣,因为它们让你的模型更加的有创意。您不妨在您的下一个模型上试一试!
Although each of the colors and techniques usedto paint the side plate of this JS-3 are very similar to methods seen earlier,thicker plates of steel often contain different textures. This Czech Hetzer inPrague during the uprising in 1945 demonstrates how numerous methods can beused to create an array of different surfaces on a scale model.  These finishes are extremely enjoyablebecause they allow you to be very creative. I encourage you to try them on oneof your future projects.

本期完! 敬请期待下期吧!
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发表于 2018-11-6 10:58:14 | 显示全部楼层
妈耶,感觉在追剧一样,好爽
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-6 11:03:44 | 显示全部楼层
Maveric_Wo8Ft 发表于 2018-11-6 10:58
妈耶,感觉在追剧一样,好爽

是不是有点直播的赶脚?
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发表于 2018-11-6 11:03:58 | 显示全部楼层
太棒了!楼主辛苦了!
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发表于 2018-11-6 13:23:24 | 显示全部楼层
效果真好  不过这得花多少时间啊~!~~~
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发表于 2018-11-6 13:30:23 | 显示全部楼层
先顶一下再看,辛苦
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